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Po onome što sam vidio,čuo i pročitao mislim da ne može parirati Tyrosu 3,a o Tyrosu 4 da ne govorimo...,ali to je samo moje mišljenje.(da se neko od kolega ne bi našao uvređenim).Da,jedino mi se sviđa izgled,puno je ljepši od Tyrosa...Pozdrav!
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ako bude ono sto ocekujem kvalitet i tezinu,ona je moja a vako dok se ne uvjerim za sada sam na pa2x,samo mi je bitna tezina jer tada je klavijatura kvalitetna kao pa1x i pa2x nek me ne svate pogresno ostali pozz.
Kako tehnologija napreduje, tako i za neke stvari težina se smanjuje, što ne mora odmah za sobom vući da kvalitet se smanjuje.
Opet svako od nas na svoj način određuje šta je za njega bolje, tu nema druge.

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Ja nisam cuo nisto da kaze o oscilatorima .... odakle ta informacija da ima vise oscilatora ?
Broj oscilatora ostaje ist, kako i tone generator. Tako da logicno je to da ne se cuje neka primetna razlika medju njega i pa2x.

Inace ja licno sam ocekivao nesto vise al sad sta je tu je.
Da ne navodim full url zbog pravilnika ali sa F-Korg se navodi to, par zastupnika Korg-a direktno komuniciraju sa user-ima...

A za zvuk, pa i Pa800 i Pa2x Pro imaju na papiru sve isto, a opet je potvrđeno da zvuče različito! Što znači ne mora da znači to što si naveo.


@ALL: Što se tiče razlike cijene na Balkanu i na Zapadu, tu igraju više faktora.

Pa800 je jedno vrijeme na balkanu bio za 1000€ jeftiniji od Pa800 u Njemačkoj.
Tako da sve zavisi o trenutnom stanju tržišta na tom regionu.
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KORG Pa3X - Professional Arranger Workstation


• Massive internal ROM – plus up to 256 MB of user PCM data (equivalent to 512 MB*) –provides an extraordinarily powerful wave memory, delivering the best sound quality possible

• Three assignable switches, a four-way joystick, and our unique ribbon strip ensure total control for the many available levels of sound articulation (DNC)

• Choose either 61 keys or 76 semi–weighted keys; both with velocity and aftertouch

• Elegantly designed and reliable aluminum cabinet

• TouchView™ TFT display; 76-key model features a motorized tilting display

• Professional graphic interface with new Search facility for quickly locating musical resources

• High-fidelity, optional amplification/speaker bar with Korg’s own Easy Connect system (no support, cables, or additional power supply needed)

• Self-refreshing PCM Data memory backup – supported by our own Intelligent Re-Charge system – ensures fast startup

• Improved Style and Performance selection, Over 400 factory Styles; each with 4 variations and 4 Fill In + Break, plus 15 user banks for unlimited storage of your favorite customized or user created Styles and settings

• Enhanced Guitar Mode 2 for even more realistic guitar parts

• Chord Sequencer function records any chord progression on-the-fly

• Up to 8 Stereo Effects at once, including flexible Master and Insert routing for Styles and songs. New Vintage Effects from the acclaimed SV-1 Stage Vintage Piano

• New TC-Helicon ® Vocal Processor (VoiceLive2 derived) with dedicated professional effects

• Adaptive Mic Setting provides a virtual sound engineer to automatically set the best EQ/Compressor/Gate settings for your voice

• Professional Final Mastering tools from “Waves Audio” plugins “MaxxAudio ™ ” suite.

• New Double MP3/MIDI files player and recorder with Advanced Vocal Remover.

• Enhanced compatibility with Lyrics in graphical format (+G) for MIDI files and MP3 files.

• New Audio Chord Detection function that automatically extracts chords to send to the Vocal Processor from MP3 files.


Two to choose from
The Pa3X comes in two different configurations. First is the compact and lightweight 61-key model. Also available is the 76-key version, offering a semi-weighted action and a motorized tilting display. Both keyboards feel great, and both models feature naturally responsive key-on / key-off velocity sensitivity and aftertouch, and both were designed for beginners through to demanding professional keyboard players.

The vast 256 MB memory (PCM User memory) can be expanded to a massive 512 MB (when calculated as 16-bit linear data), with the optional EXB-M256 memory expansion board, so custom sounds can easily be added. Another first is the Self-Refresh Memory Backup battery for all factory and user PCM data, making start-up of the Pa3X much, much faster. An intelligent re-charging system ensures the battery is always charged.


The internal Sampler is now equipped with a new Sound Compression tool (no loss, 1:2 ratio). The Pa3X can also Load/Import Korg, WAV, AIFF, and Akai samples and export in WAV or AIFF. Sounds can be fully edited, and can now use up to 24 oscillators for each note!


Some effects are suitable for single instruments while others add the final coloring, space and texture to the overall piece. For the latter, the Pa3X includes effects from an industry leader: Waves Audio. The Pa3X includes the powerful MaxxAudio™ suite, which has been described as "the next generation of audio processing tools". These onboard effects, which include MaxxBass™, MaxxVolume™, MaxxEQ™, MaxxTreble™ and MaxxStereo™, provide unparalleled performance, delivering sound that is louder, clearer, fuller, and more polished.



TC-Helicon® Voice Processor
Korg’s long term cooperation with the world leader in vocal harmonies, TC-Helicon®, continues in the Pa3X with the new Voice Processor, recognized as the state of the art in vocal and harmony processing. With new features and new algorithms, including even better pitch correction, the TC-Helicon® Voice Processor ensures your vocals have the highest possible sound quality. Up to 4 realistic voices plus 2 doubled harmonies are available and can be controlled by the keyboard, MIDI and even MP3 input. Thanks to the new Audio Chord Detection function, chords can be automatically extracted from an audio file and sent to the Vocal Processor! Other 5 effect blocks are available, including Reverb, Delay , µMod and special FX such as Megaphone and Hardtune.


Adaptive Mic Setting is a special feature that puts RX technology to work immediately after connecting the microphone to the XLR/Combo balanced input. This amazing new feature monitors the input signal and auto adjusts parameters such as the Adaptive Gate, EQ, Compression and the De-Esser to make the vocals sound smooth and “studio produced.” Adaptive Mic Setting is unique to Korg in the world of Arrangers!
To ensure professional vocal performance, 3 knobs and 3 buttons controlling the most important vocal functions have been added to the top panel within easy reach.

Several new sophisticated parameters which ensure professional and realistic guitar tracks have been added with Guitar Mode 2, making the guitar tracks of every Style rich and authentic.


A new function called Chord Sequencer records your chord progressions on-the-fly allowing the user to immediately play along with their own chord sequence.

Player/Sequencer
The famous Korg XDS Crossfade Dual Sequencer Player now supports, in addition to the main music formats, the “+G” format for both MP3 and MIDI files which can be played together. This new feature allows backing sequences to play with enriched lyrics and graphics which can be displayed simultaneously on the on-board TFT display and on an external monitor (with the VIF4 option installed). There is also a Marker Function, allowing direct jumps to a given position in the song. A sophisticated Score Viewer is also available.


Two different MP3 or MIDI files can be played simultaneously and both MIDI and MP3 files can be transposed, accelerated or slowed down. Powerful new technology drives the all new Advanced Vocal Remover, allowing vocals to be removed from MP3 files with unparalleled accuracy. More advanced than a simple center-channel cancellation tool, the Advanced Vocal Remover keeps the original stereo image of the song while removing just the main vocals.


The enhanced 16 track sequencer allows the most sophisticated levels of sequencing, but also provides quick and easy song creation using the Backing Sequence function. And because the Pa3X is very clever, it can record your entire performance! You can run a song, play the keyboard, sing along and everything will be recorded in MP3 format and stored on an external USB device or in the internal Hard Disk (76 version only – optional for the 61 key version).

KORG Pa3X Professional Arranger Workstation Specifications

Keyboard:
61-key with velocity and aftertouch
76 semi-weighted keys with velocity and aftertouch


System
OPOS (Objective Portable Operating System)
RX (Real eXperience)
DNC (Defined Nuance Control)
Natural Ambience Drums Sound Technology
Multitasking, Load while play feature
Upgradable Operating System
Self-Refresh Battery for PCM data




Tone Generator
KORG EDS (Enhanced Definition Synthesis) sound generator:
120 Voices, 120 Oscillators
Filters with Resonance
Three band EQ for each track


Effects
Up to 8 Stereo Digital Multi-Effects block system
140 Effects types plus VOCODER
Final Mastering Effects by WAVES
(MaxxEQ™, MaxxBass™, MaxxTreble™, MaxxStereo™, MaxxVolume™)


New Voice Processor Technology by TC-Helicon® with 7 Effects:
Four-part Harmonizer, Double, µMod, Reverb, Delay, Filter, HardTune, Pitch Correction plus Compressor, EQ, Gate (Adaptive Mic Setting on the Mic input)

Sounds / Drumkits
More than 1100, including Stereo Piano and GM Level 1 & 2 compatible sounds; more than 90 Drum Kits


User area: 512 Sounds, 128 Drum Kits
Defined Nuance Control (DNC) Technology


Real Drum Ambience


Digital Drawbars: 9 Footages


Realtime controls: Assignable Sliders
Full editing of Sounds and Drum Kits


Sampling: Record, Edit, Time Slice, Compression Tool, Load/Import of Korg, Wav, AIFF and Akai files; Export of Wav and AIFF files


PCM RAM Memory: 128 MB standard (equivalent to 256 MB linear data), expandable up to 256 MB (equivalent to 512MB linear data) with the optional EXB-M256 memory expansion board


Styles
More than 400 preloaded Styles, freely reconfigurable
1200 available Style locations including the Favorite banks
Eight Style tracks, 4 Single Touch Settings, 4 Pads and one Style Performance per Style
Guitar Track 2 mode, Parallel and Fixed NTT
Compatible with old "i-Series" and Pa series Style format
Style Record with Step Record, Track and Event Edit functions
Style controls: 3 Intros, 4 Variations, 4 Fills, Break, 3 Endings, Synchro Start/Stop, Tap Tempo/Reset, Fade In/Out, Bass Inversion, Auto Fill, Manual Bass, Tempo Lock, Memory, Accompaniment/Real Time Track Balance Volume, Accompaniment Mute, Drum Mapping, Snare & Kick Designation, Single Touch

Chord Sequencer
Realtime Style Chord Sequencer Recorder

Performance / STS
512 Realtime Performance locations


STS: Memorize Realtime tracks and Voice Processor settings, up to 4 x 1200 Styles, up to 4 x SongBook entries

Realtime tracks
Four Keyboard tracks (Upper 1, 2, 3, Lower) with dedicated on/off and sound select buttons

Song Play
Patented XDS Crossfade Dual Sequencer Player (Supported formats: MID, MID+G, KAR, MP3 + lyrics, MP3+G)
2 Players with separate Select, Start/Stop, Home, Rewind and Fast Forward controls
X-Fader Balance control
Lyrics, Score, and Chord data can be displayed on screen,
or on external video monitor (with VIF4 option installed)
Markers
Jukebox function


Mp3 Player / Recorder
Double Mp3 Player and Mp3 Recorder
Two Mp3 files can be played simultaneously in Song Play Mode
Real Time Transpose (+6/-5 semitones)
Tempo change (±30%)
Advanced Vocal Remover Record MP3 files including Styles, SMF, Real Time Tracks, Pads, Microphone and Effects
Audio Chord detection for Vocal Harmony

Sequencer
Quick Record (Backing Sequence)
Multitrack and Step Record functions - Full-featured sequencer
16 tracks; Up to 200,000 events
SMF native format

SongBook
Fully programmable music database, based on Styles, SMF, Karaoke, MP3 with automatic selection of Style Play and Song Play modes
User-definable custom lists
Filtering and Ordering options

Compatibility


"i-Series" models: Styles


Pa series: Style, Performance, Program/Sound, Song, SongBook, Pad

Multi Pad
4 Assignable Pads + Stop Button - Pad Record function

Help System
Hypertextual, Contextual, Multilingual

General Controls
Master Volume, Real Time-Acc/Seq Balance Volume, Ensemble, Octave Transpose, Master Transpose, Style Change, Quarter Tone and Arabic Scale memorized inside Performance/STS - Realtime controllers: Joystick (pitch + modulation), Ribbon Control, 8 Assignable Sliders, MP3 Volume, Mic Volume, Mic Harmony/Double Vol., Mic Reverb/Delay Vol., 3 Assignable Switches,
Tempo +/-, Dial, Up/+, Down/- - Search Function

Control Inputs
Damper Pedal (support half-pedaling with optional DS-1H pedal), Assignable Pedal/Switch, EC-5 (Programmable Multi-Switches)

Analog Outputs
Unbalanced/Balanced Jack Left/Mono, Right/Mono, Out 1, Out 2,
Headphones (in the front panel)

Digital Outputs
S/P DIF (48 kHz – coaxial), mirroring the Main Stereo Outputs

Line Inputs
2 Unbalanced/Balanced Jack Left/Mono, Right/Mono

Microphone Input
Combo XLR balanced with Gain control (15 to 50 dB) and switchable Phantom Power

MIDI
In, Out, Thru; standard Midi connectors
USB to Midi using the USB Device port
Individual track assignment
8 user definable MIDI Setups

USB
2 USB Host Front/Rear (2.0 Hi Speed) and 1 USB Device Rear (1.1 Full Speed) connections

Hard Disk / Mass Storage
Standard 4 GB memory USB
Optional 2.5" SATA Hard Disk Driver (61-key)
Standard internal 2.5" SATA Hard Disk Drive (76-key)

DVD-CD Player / Floppy Disk
Optional using standard USB DVD/CD/FD Drives connected via USB Host ports

Display
Pa3X 61: Resolution: 320 x 240 pixels - TFT Color TouchView Graphic Touch Screen;
Pa3X 76: Motorized Tilt Display - Resolution: 320 x 240 pixels - TFT Color TouchView Graphic Touch Screen

Clock
Internal System Clock

Consumption
30 Watt - 50 Watt when connected with Amplification Bar (PaAS)

Dimensions (W x D x H)
980 x 366 x 145 mm / 38.58 x 14.41 x 5.71 inch without music stand (61);
1192 x 366 x 145 mm / 49.93 x 14.41 x 5.71 inch without music stand and with the display fully lowered (76)

Weight
14.7 kg / 32.4 lbs (61); 17.5 kg / 38.58lbs (76)

Accessories
Manual, AC Power Cable, Music Stand, CD-ROM

Options
PaAS Amplification System
EXB-M256 - 256 MB RAM Expansion Board
VIF4 - Video Interface Board
EXP-2 - Expression/Volume Pedal
XVP-10 - Professional Expression/Volume Pedal
EC5 - Assignable Multi-Switch Controller
DS-1H - Damper Pedal
PS-1 - Switch Pedal
Hard Disk Kit Installation Kit (61 only)

* Helicon is a registered trademark of TC-Helicon Vocal Technologies Ltd.
* MaxxAudio, MaxxEQ, MaxxBass, MaxxTreble, MaxxStereo, MaxxVolume are trademarks of Waves Audio Ltd.
* Specifications and appearance are subject to change without notice for improvement.



Pa AS - Pa Amplification System for Pa3X (76 and 61 keys)


System
3 Channel Amplification System


Power
2x20 Watt (Middle/High Frequency) + 1x40 Watt (Sub Woofer)


Speakers
5 Speakers: 2 Middle range (80 mm) + 2 Tweeters + Dual Coil Subwoofer (130 mm).


Cabinet
Aluminum case with Bass Reflex System


Connectivity
Extremely Simple Connection. Power and the audio signal from the Pa3X are via a special connector that is automatically attached to the keyboard. No Cable, No Power supply needs to be attached to the Pa3X


Dimensions (W x D x H)
992 x 173 x 137 mm / 39.06 x 6.81x 5.39 inch

Weight
5.7 kg / 12.57 lbs
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Ne verujem da je u Nemackoj ikada bio skuplji pa 800 za 1000 Eura.....male razlike je uvek bilo ali ne i 50 % Sve kupujem iskljucivo u Nemackoj pa pratim deshavanja.

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@gega: Samo na kratko ćemo o ovome da ne skrećemo sa teme ... Evo npr. sada je kod *************************2000€ Pa800,
dok je kod nas u Artist-u oko 1800€, što je tu i tamo slična cijena... dok kad sam ja kupovao Pa800 prije 16 mjeseci... cijena u Artist-u bila 1640€ a u GER oko 2300€... Sve u svemu nije 1000€ ali je tu negdje bila drastična razlika...

Pozdrav.

@Vaxter i ostali mod.: Da li bi preimenovali naziv teme sa "Novi Korg Pa3x Musikant! " u "Novi Korg Pa3x!" ... Nek se odnosi na internacionalnu verziju uređaja a ne na Njemačko tržište namjenjen Musikant (i ako je razlika samo u SET-u i boji uređaja). Hvala.
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