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Roland posle G 1000 nije vise uradio nista vredno.
Promijenjeno od casper (24.09.2022 u 19:45 sati) Razlog: uklonjen nepotreban citat |
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Kao kod kuće
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1. Nije tema Roland vec Ketron.
2. Ne lupaj gluposti kad vec tako moram da kazem,sa jednim G70 ili ti jos jacim E80 G1000 ne moze da se poredi. To ti je kao da kazes da je i30 bolji od Pa2x Ja vec duze vreme razmisljam da predjem sa Korga na Ketron. Sd9 mi je malo poskup mada vredi te pare. Medjutim mozda bolje sacekati ovaj novi model. ![]() |
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Vredan član društva
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Siniša u pravu si, ja sada još danas sviram Roland G 1000 a imam i nov korg PA 700 ali nikako da ga dobro sredim da zvuči kao G 1000, taj imam jako dobro sredjen a i poznajem ga vrlo dobro.
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Upravo je izdan novi udate.
https://www.ketron.it/en/software-2/event-1-2-0 Oprez! Prije nadogradnje napravite backup svih vlastitih samplova i to svakog posebno. Nadogradnja briše sav sample content i vraćate nazad samo jedan po jedan sample. Promijenjeno od casper (09.05.2023 u 16:54 sati) |
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Vredan član društva
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... najbitnije da mogu terce
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Odomaćeni član
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Pitanje za Caspera.
Budući da si već neko vrijeme na Eventu, i čitam redovno tvoje postove, koliko je zapravo ovo sve što event nudi upotrebljivo za našu muziku? Disco/Dvojka, 7/8, rumbe, begini, sirtakiji, dvojke i slični ritmovi. Da li taj real drum prepoznaje udarce pa prema njemu i "štima" patern ili su paterni naknadno odsvirani pa što ti je ponuđeno, ponuđeno je (i da li je ta ponuda ako je kao takva, dovoljna za izbor)? Čuo sam na par demo pjesama koje su objavljivali da npr. kad odradiš prelaz/fill da uopće nema udarac činela nego ono samo blago kašnjenje sa prelaza na varijaciju ( i da li se može u real drum modu naknadno nadosnimiti neki udarac bubnja, unutar njegovog "record mod-a" kao sto je na korgu)... Mislim ne znam kako bih opisao ali nadam se da me razumiješ što hoću reći. I još jedna stvar ali nisam skontao, da li Event ima kao na korgu STS-ove? Dakle kao button-e za brzo biranje boja unutar ritma? Ili moraš svaku boju posebno ulaziti i tražiti u user? Pisao si da ti se klavijatura zaledila 5-6 puta, a da li se to događalo tokom promjene ritmova i općenito u toku same svirke? Dobro sam zagrijan za Ketrona, ali evo i dalje se informiram... Mislim, nije malo dati 5K eura i naravno pri tome da ne radi kako treba...
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Kao kod kuće
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Evo jedan zanimljiv video o nekim nedostatcima koji Evant ima u odnosu na druge klavijature,tacnije u odnosu na Medeli AKX10. Iako klavijature nisu,niti mogu da se porede ipak nek stvari koje ima najeftini aranzer nedostaju na najskupljem.
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Svaka klavijatura se može upotrijebiti za sviranje. Razlika je samo u količini materijala koju imamo na raspolaganju. Ketron općenito, a tako i EVENT, imaju veliki deficit u materijalu koje je potreban za narodnu glazbu. Osobno ne sviram taj žanr pa mi to ne predstavlja nikakav problem ali dobro znam da onima koji sviraju narodnjak nedostaje ritmova i "boja". Iz tvog pitanja vidim da nisi dobro razumio kako sviraju i kako se stvaraju Real drum, Real chord i Real bass. Na tkz. Real kanalima sviraju audio loopovi, tj. wav. datoteke. U samoj klavijaturi ima ogroman broj istih, ti ih možeš međusobno kombinirati i kreirati novi ritam ili obrađivati postojeći. Možeš imati i vlastite audio loopove za ritmove koje spominješ. Recimo da ti treba kontra za neku dvojku. Uzmeš akustičnu gitaru i snimiš loop u waw formatu od 8 taktova. Tako napraviš za sve durske akorde, pa za molske, za sedmice ... Recimo, d-mol odsviraš sa drugačijim motivom nego C mol. Znači, svaki akord može zvučati drugačije. To je ono što je Ketron ponudio kao novinu i zato je dobar. Isti pristup je za bas gitaru pa za bubanj. Zamisli sada koliko je posla potrebno da odsviraš i snimiš baš sve što ti je potrebno. 12 dur, 12 mol, 12 /7, 12 dim, 12 sus ... pa tako za bas, pa onda bubanj ... Svi ti motivi, tj. audio loopovi se spremaju u mapu koja ima naziv ritma i onda ih koristiš po potrebi. Preko ovoga možeš aktivirati i MIDI kanale u Stylu pa onda činele ili ostale elemente na prelazu kojeg spominješ, lako možeš dodati na svaki ritam. Dakle, možeš naknadno dosnimavati što ti srce želi. STS, ili OTS kod Yamahe postoji i kod EVENTA ali ima jedan veliki nedostatak. Aktivacija istih se može napraviti jedino preko ekrana jer ne postoje vanjski gumbi za to. Oni pristrani Ketronu će reči da to nije problem ali realni muzičari koji STS koriste u živoj svirci se mogu samo nasmijati na to. To je kao da za svaku promjenu brzine u autu moramo vaditi mjenjač iz neke kutijice. EVENT sam koristio s prvom verzijom firmware i zaledila mi se dok sam svirao. Nisam radio ništa zahtjevno. Rekoše ljudi da se ne mrzne s novom verzijom ali dok se sam ne uvjerim, ne vjerujem nikome. Nezahvalno je drugima davati savjete ali ovog ću si puta dopustiti tu slobodu. Ostani na PA4x i uživaj dok se nešto pametno ne dogodi na tržištu. Pod pamento mislim; dok Ketron ne napravi stabilnu platformu, dok Korg na ispravi nedostatke kod PA5x ili dok Yamaha ne izda nešto novo. |
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ne. nego posle G 70 i E 80.
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EVENT SPECIFICATIONS
• Polyphony: 216 notes, multitimbral. • Keyboard: 76 half weighted keys. 4 Dynamic curves. Pitch and Modulation wheels. Aftertouch. Portamento. Legato Mono_Poly. Transposer -/+ 24. Octave +/- 2. Expr. Pedal with 6 curves. • Controls: 15 sliders with RGB Led indicator. Brightness and color controls. 8 potentiometers for external EFX control. • Display: 7” touch capacitive. Brightness control. 5 different skin colors. • Factory Sounds: 10 Voice groups: Piano, Strings, Organ, Brass, Sax, Pad, Synth, Guitar, Bass, Ethnic. 464 Preset Voices. Voice 1, Voice 2, each Voice with up to 3 different sounds. Drawbars. Factory Advanced Voice Editing. High quality multilayer Sounds with a vast selection of Real Solos ®. Factory overwrite and restore. Up to 1.280 User Voices available. Arabic scale and key shift programmable per Voice. • User Sounds: 2,5 GB free storage in non-volatile Flash memory (1,5 GB for additional Factory Sound Banks – 1 GB for User samples). Sample Editor: up to 8.192 samples (max 6 seconds per sample). Up to 4 layered stereo instruments (Voice or Drum Set). Advanced editor with Split, Octave, Level, Range, Tune, Cut off, Velocity, Adsr. Sample Loop utilities. User Drum kits. • Adsr/Filter: separate sound controls for Attack, Decay, Sustain, LFO, Cut Off and Resonance. • Drum Set: 62 Stereo Drums kits. 32 User Drum kits with Remap, Filter, Tune, FX controls. Drum Mixer: 9 sections with separate controls for level, pan, reverb, pitch, velocity compression. 86 Midi Drum styles (Pattern) available on Grv1_Loop section. • Drawbars: 9 digital drawbars. Slow-Fast Rotor. Overdrive, Click, Vibrato, Reverb, Percussion. Full programmability. 24 Organ Presets. Twin Organ: possibility to mix PCM and Digital organ tones for a wide stereo sound reproduction. • Arranger: Over 400 Styles. Real Styles, featuring a mix of Midi and audio parts (see below), Live Styles and Midi Styles. 10 groups: Ballad, Pop, Dance, Rock, Swing, Latin, Country, Folk, Party, Unplugged. 3 Intro, 3 Ending, Fill to End, ABCD, 4 Fills, 4 Break. Reintro, Count In, Pause, Key Start, Key Stop, Variation. User Styles with unlimited store capabilities. • 5 Midi Chords and Bass. Close, Parallel, Logic mode. 3 x Lower with Mono/Poly function. Chord Variation. Varitone. Voice to ABCD. Auto Fill, Fill to Arrange, Fill to Aftertouch. Chord modes: Easy1, Easy2, Easy3, Fingered 1, Fingered 2. Orch. Variation Morphing. Rootless mode. Manual Bass, To Lowest, To Root. Bassist and Pianist mode (Standard/Expert). Bass and Chord Lock. • Live Drums: 580 Live Drums with a complete Arranger structure (3 Intros, 3 Endings, ABCD, 4 Fills, 4 Breaks). Reverb and 3 band Parametric Equalizer with 10 presets, programmable on each style. Drum Boost. Possibility to load external User Live Drums. Drum Lock. • Grooves: 3 x independent Groove sections. Huge library of more than 780 Latin percussions, Electro and Acoustic Drum loops, Single percussion hits. Groove to Variation. Separate volume and controls. • Live Guitars: 216 sliced Guitar patterns including Long Chords. Separate volume and controls. • Real Chord: More than 300 Real audio accompaniments covering a full chord range (up to 13 different chords). A wide variety of electric, acoustic, and jazz guitars patterns and other orchestral sequences perfectly synchronized to Midi. Dedicated Insert EFX with full editor, programmable for each style. Possibility to load external User Real Chords. • Real Bass: 256 Real audio Basses synchronized to Midi. Twin Bass: possibility to switch Midi or Audio on the same style. Support to external User audio Basses. 3 band Parametric Equalizer with 10 Presets, programmable on each style. Possibility to load external User Real Basses. • Style Modeling: navigate and choose Drums, Grooves, Bass and Chords from the massive Midi and Audio Library. Multichord and Multibass templates. • Style Edit: advanced pattern recording and editing. Copy, Quantize, Velocity, Octave functions. Special quantize available for oriental styles (7/8, 9/8, 13/8, etc.). • Registrations: 4 Banks with unlimited Registrations controlling the global set up of the keyboard. • Performance: provides fast access to Styles, Registrations with Style, Mp3, Wav or Midi files. 7 Sets with unlimited file storage. • Play Mode: Master, Accord/Style, Accord/Classic, Organist. • Phrase: real time recording and play for Style chord sequences. • Custom Slider: 2 x Custom slider (alternative to Lower 2 And 3) assignable to Micro, Arranger sections, Drum filter and other functions. • Footswitch: 4 programmable Set. Assignable to the most relevant machine functions and features. • Arabic Scale: 16 sets. 6 scale memories. • Dsp: Reverb, Chorus, Phaser, Flanger, Overdrive, Distortion, Tremolo, Autopan, Equalizer. 2 stereo EFX Insert assigned to Voice and Voice 2, 1 Insert to Arranger chords, 1 Insert to Real Chord. External panel controls: Overdrive, Brilliance, Chorus/Wah Depth and Rate, Delay Feedback and Level, Reverb Time, and Level. 64 Single Presets and 64 Chain Effects. Deep editing. • Stem: 4 Scenes. 5 audio tracks per scene to be played simultaneously. Lead track, Transpose, Time Stretching, Loop, Solo, Mute, Autoplay. Fixed pitch for Drum section. Support for external User Stems. • Player: 2 separate Player units feat. Transpose, Audio Time stretching, GM, Jukebox, Playlists, Drum Remix, Markers, Lyrics, Cross Fade, Search, PFL, Midi Mix, Karaoke Backgrounds. Support for wav, midi, mp3, mp4, avi, mov, flv, cdg, jpg, png, txt and pdf files. • HD Recording: 1 stereo audio track. Midi and Song Style recording. • Audio Multitrack: 5+1 audio tracks with separate slider control. • Micro: 2 x Micro inputs. Micro 1 (XLR) with gain control. Effect with Reverb, Delay, Equalizer, Pitch shift. Micro 2 (jack) with volume and reverb control. • Voicetron: 3 voice vocalizer. Assignable to Arranger or Midi file with Presets, Equalizer, Mode functions. • Video: HDMI connection for displaying lyrics, pictures, and videos. Mirror mode. Up to Full HD Resolution. Support for external touchscreen displays. • Bluetooth: Streaming audio input (ad2p profile). • Wi_Fi: Networked remote control via KETRON app. • Storage: 240 GB internal SSD disk (80 GB reserved for System). Optional external SD Card (up to 512 GB). • Side Connections: 2 x USB device. USB Host. HDMI. • Rear Connections: Main Out Left / Right. Aux 1 & Aux 2 (Left/Right). Headphone. Sustain pedal. Volume pedal. Footswitch. Midi In1, Midi In2, Out, Thru. Line In L/R. Micro 1, Micro 2. • Optional: Volume pedal normal or deluxe. Sustain pedal normal or piano type (available also with Footswitch connector). Footswitch 6 or 13 switches. Midi Pedalboard 13 notes (K8). Soft bag. Hard case. • Dimensions: 114 x 36,5 x 12,5 cm (44,8 x 14,3 x 5 in) • Weight: 14,8 Kg (32,6 lbs.) |
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