Ketron x1 za Gem wk8
 

imam ponudu za zamenu da uzem ketron x1 a da dam wk8.da lil ne?ima li neko neke podatke o toj klavijaturi?da li je bolja od Gema?koliko ima user mesta da li ima sempler i koliko?kakava je za rad?

Ketron X1 je prvi aranžer na ovim prostorima s live drum setom. Osim što je ritmički neprikosnoven, po meni kvaliteniji generacijski i od KORG-a Pa80, Rolanda VA i Yamahe PSR9000, valja spomenuti da ima sampler, HDD i poluotežanu tipku tvornički. Ketron X1 je ne duplo nego 3 puta bolja klavijatura od GEM-a WK8, i ako ju dobivaš 1 za 1 dobro provjeri zašto čovjek forsira takovu trampu, jer očigledno na njoj nešto ne štima. Danas joj je realna vrijednost 750 - 800 € (U HR). Ako ju uzmeš nečeš požaliti, aranžer je ne vrlo dobar nego odličan. Mana mu je strujno napajanje (svaki 5 rikne) i ekran (s vremenom odiđe pozadinsko svijetlo na ekranu), no to su sve kvarovi ranga do 50 € tako da svakako isplati se uzeti.
Sample memorija mu je 16 Mb, čita disk do 20 Gb, editing mu je lagan (slično kao Rolandu). Njegov nasljednjik je legendaran Ketron SD1 (prethodnik Audie). Imao sam je prije 7-8 godina, bio sam zadovoljan s njom. Koliko se sjećam ima 192 user mjesta (al ne drži me za riječ, rađe provjeri na netu). Imam još nešto materijala za nju, pa ako se odlučiš na trampu i usfali ti ritmova javi se. Samplove od njega sam već zakačio odavno u download centar.

znaci da nesto nije u redu cim mi nudi i doplatu...morao bih znaci dobro da je proverim.e sad kakav je za sredjivanje?meni je gem sredjen maximalno i to me je mnogo kostalo.kako on radi sa loopovima jer nece da zakoci masinu lil tako to?semplove od drugih npr.od korga konvertuju se pa treba posle ponovo da se redjaju tonovi u klavijaturi ili ih on sam naredja?naso sam se u cudo da neznam sta da radim?a malo mi je daleko da odem i da proverim u kakvom je stanju i kako to radi...

Ma vidi, nije X1 uopće problematičan. Konvertirani samplovi rade na njemu ko grom. Problem je što inaće ima jako malo materijala za njega (nije kao KORG, Roland ili Yamaha), i jako mali broj muzičara zna s njime raditi kako treba. Tako da prekupci ili muzičari koji su navikli na veliku trojku brzo odustaju od njega i daju ga radi svoje ljenosti bud za što, samo da ga se rješe. Zvukom, ritmom i kvalitetom (odgovorno stojim iza svojih riječi) je daleko ispred "velike" trojke iz tog doba. Samplovi ne štekaju, AWAVE izkonverita bilo koji sample u njega bez problema, a čita ti i WAV format.
Pogledaj malo demo video i podatke na internetu, usporedi sa GEM-om i vidjet ćeš da ti ne prodajem toplu vodu pod priču. Znaš kako zvući SD1 od Ketrona, a ovo nije ništa slabije, samo je malo stariji. Uzmi sa sobom dobrog poznavaoca Ketrona i idi pogledati. Možda stvarno za male pare dobiješ zlatnu koku.

Evo ti malo specifikacija :
<TABLE border=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>KEYBOARD </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">61 weighted keys. After Touch. 3 Velocity Curves. Split.Bend & Modulation Wheels. </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>POLYPOHNY</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">64 notes. 32 Multitimbral.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>SOUND SOURCE </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">276 Sounds. 20 Drum Sets. 231 Percussions. Drum Grooves. Pcm, Analog (Saw, Square, Sine), Fm Voicing.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>USER VOICES </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">128 programmable User Voices. Controls :ADSR,Filter,LFO, Wheels, Aftertouch, Effect.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>SOUND CARD </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Flash Card 8Mbyte (optional).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>SOUND RAM </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Simm 16 Mbytes.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>FACTORY STYLES </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">198 Rom Styles (2 Banks x 99). 10 parts: Drums, Bass, Groove, 5 Chords, Lower 1, Lower 2. 4 Arrangers, 3 Intros, 3 Endings, 4 Fill Ins. Jump. Arrange Lock :Drum, Bass, Chords, Bass to Lowest. Bass to Root. Manual Bass. Bass Octave. Bass Sustain. Pedalboard. Swell to Right. Lower octave.Lower Hold. Left Level balance. Key Start. Key Stop. Restart. Count In. Start. Hold. Tempo Slow/Fast (40 - 250). Accelerando/Ritardando.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>CUSTOM STYLES </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">198 Custom Styles with programmable Parameter Edit for Factory Styles.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc height=17 vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>DRUM MIXER </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 height=17 vAlign=top width="80%">10 Drum sections: Kick, Snare, Hi Hat, Cymbal, Tom/Fx, Tambourine, Latin 1, Latin 2, Latin 3, Groove, Drum On/Off switches. Controls: Volume,Reverb, Panpot.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>USER DRUM SET</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">4 programmable User Drum Sets. Pitch, Key Shift.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>PATTERNS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Up to 99 internal Patterns, Flash RAM 2Mbyte expansion (optional).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>REGISTRATIONS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">198 panel Registrations (2 Banks x 99). Up to 999 Single Disk Registrations each Folder. </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>PROGRAMS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">128 Programs. 4 Voices. 4 splits. Effects. Duet. Trio. Velocity switch.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>DRAWBARS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">8 Digital Drawbars.16 Organ effects. Click, 2nd and 3rd percussion.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>ONE TOUCH </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">48 (2 Banks x 24) 1 Touch settings for Right hand.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>2ND VOICE </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">2nd Voice programmable on Voices for Bank 1, 2, User and Drawbar.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>2ND VOICE EDIT</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Voice change, Volume, Transposer.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>OCTAVE</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Up/Down +/- 1 octave.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>HARMONY</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Full, Jazz, Double up, Double down, Bluegrass, Trill, Repeat, Repeat Speed.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>PORTAMENTO</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Rate control +/- 64. Mono Legato function.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>TRANSPOSER</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">+/- 24 halftones.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>AFTERTOUCH</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Assignable to Cut Off, Volume, Bend, Slide, LFO. Attack, Threshold and Sensitivity control.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>MODULATION WHEEL </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">LFO to Pitch, to DCF, to DCA, Wha Wha, Swell, Rate.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>PITCH WHEEL </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Tune +/- 99 cents. Vibrato On/Off. Bend value 0/24. Bend to LFO, DCF, DCA.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>ARABIC SCALE </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Tune +/- 99 cents per note. 6 Arabic set up. Footswitch assignable.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>ACCORDION MODE </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">International, Belgique. Left/Right Velocity control. Bass Octave, Bass Sustain, Bass to Chord recognition, Lower 1/2 Octave. Left Drum to Bass, to Chord.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>EFFECTS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">2 digital multi-effect DSP’s. 60 different Effects. Reverberation, Chorus, Flanger, Feedback, Delay, Wha Wha, Distortion, Overdrive, Rotor Slow/Fast, Equalizer +/-12 db (Low, Middle, High). 16 User Effects.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>SAMPLER</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">8 Mbyte Sampling 16 Bit - 44.100 KHz. Recording: Time, Trigger, Loop type, Reverse, Delete. Load & Save for. Wave files. Sample Edit: Start, End, Level, Pitch, Zoom, Key, Tune. Up to 8 Multisample with 32 splits each. Multisample (MSP) edit : A,D,S,R, Cut Off, Velocity, Effects, Octave, Level.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>VOCALIST</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">(optional). Harmonizer, Vocoder, Melody types, Midi Vocalist track, Left and Right assign, Reverb, Delay, Transpose, Level, Hold. Filter edit: Formant, Frequency, Resonance, Equalizer.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>MIDI</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">32 Midi Channels. General Midi standard. </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>SEQUENCER</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">16-tracks. 30.000 Notes. Up to 300.000 notes with 4Mbyte Simm (optional).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>FLOPPY DISK DRIVE</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">3,5" 2DD/2HD, SMF Song Playback. Real Time Song Recording. 0/1 Format. Data Save/Load for Custom Styles, Patterns, Programs, Registrations,User Drum Set, User Voice, Sounds. Song Play/Pause. Songs with Lyrics. Karaoke (Reverse, Underlined, Mark). Juke Box ,Lead & Lyric On/Off. Song List. Song Text (Font 1/2 ).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>VIDEO INTERFACE</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">(optional ).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>HARD DISK </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">from 1Gbyte (up to 8 Gbyte max). Type: ATA - IDE 2,5". Up to 99 Folders. 999 Files per Folder. (Optional on Ketron X1 standard).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>COMPUTER INTERFACE </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">PC/Mac interface (Cables & software optional).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>DISPLAY</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">240 x 128 pixel backlit graphic TFC.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>OUT. ASSIGN </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">GM/Keyboard Out assignment to the 4 audio Outputs.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>AMPLIFICATION</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">2 x 22 W RMS. 4 Speakers. Speaker On/Off switch.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>INPUTS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Stereo Headphone. 2 Line Inputs: Left/Mono, Right. Microphone stereo input. Gain control. Level, Pan/pot, Echo, Reverb, Pitch Shift +/- 12, Dry.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>MIDI</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Midi In1, In2, Out, Thru.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>OUTPUTS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Left/Mono (1), Right (2), 3, 4.Sustain Pedal. Volume Pedal. Footswitch (6 or 13 switches).</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>STANDARD ACCESSORIES </TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Music stand. Ac cord.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Hard Disk (only for Ketron X1 standard) Flash Card 8Mbyte Sound Bank 8 or 16 Mbyte. Pattern Flash expansion 2Mbyte. Sequencer Simm expansion 4 Mbyte. Volume Pedal. Footswitch FS 6 - FS 13. Vocalist kit. Sustain Pedal Sustain Pedal Piano type Midi Pedalboard Volume Pedal 4 switches . 9 effect manual switch. Hard Case Video Interface Computer Interface kit for PC (Cable & Software) Computer Interface kit for Mac (Cable & Software)</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>DIMENSIONS</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">117 x 40,5x 15,5 cm.</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc vAlign=top width="20%" align=right>WEIGHT</TD><TD bgColor=#999999 vAlign=top width="80%">Kg. 16 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

neznam zta da radim.daleko mi je da odem da vidim bez ucinka.a ako ne valja?pa da mlatim glavu.da mi stigne i preko ove brze poste i to je macka u dzaku i tu da mlatim glavu.nema nekog resenja nego da tu ponudu lepo zaboravim i da me vise mozak ne boli.

Kupio sam x1 unutra ima jednu memoriju od 16mb.i jednu od 32mb.sto se nalazi ispod dirke.tu je i hard...ali nemam onu fles karticu sto se ubacuje.kako nju da nabavim nema je nigde.i kako to funkcionise bez nje dzaba mi ova memorija unutra...?

uzimaj bez razmisljanja

evo da ne otvaram novu temu, i meni se nudi sad taj ketron X1, u zamijenu za androit telefon (VOYO X6i, kojem je cijena oko 100€) i 50€ nadoplate da mu dam...napisao je "klavijatura je u solidnom stanju,ispravna ima hd ram memoriju 16mb. dobar zvuk. ko se razumije zna o cemu se radi. jedini problem je neradi svjetlo na displeju"
koliko sam do sad procitao ovdje na forumu u vezi ove klavijature, cini mi se vise nego dobra za sitniš... ali nema puno o njoj pisano, vidim i vocalist (optional), sempler, poluotezane dirke... da li ga ima netko da cujem kako zvuci, posto na yt samo par neki bezze videa o njemu... unaprije hvala, LP