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gogi22 20.01.2012 14:38

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  • Keyboard: 61 keys (velocity sensitive)
  • Display: 160 x 160 dots Graphic LCD (with backlit)
Sound Generator:
  • Max. Polyphony: 128 voices (GM2/GS/XG Lite compatible)
  • Sounds: 1,172 tones, 60 Drum Sets
  • Multitimbral parts: 3 real-time parts (UP1, UP2, LWR) + 16 song parts
  • Master Tuning: 415.3 to 466.2 Hz
  • Key Control (Transpose): -6 to +5 in semitones (for audio/MIDI data)
  • Tempo change: 20 to 250 BPM for SMF and rhythms, 75 to 125% for mp3 and WAV files
  • Part mute functions: TRACK MUTE (Rhythms, SMF), CENTER CANCEL (mp3, WAV, AUDIO INPUT signals)
Effects:
  • Real-time parts (UP1, UP2, LWR), Rhythms/SMF section
    • Reverb: 8 types (selectable via Makeup Tools)
    • Chorus: 8 types (selectable via Makeup Tools)
    • MFX: 84 types for real-time parts (selectable via Tone Part MFX)
    • MFX: A & B for rhythm and SMF section (selectable via Makeup Tools)
    • Parametric EQ: 6 presets + 1 User memory
    • Multi-band compressor: 6 presets + 1 User memory
Rhythm section:
  • Rhythms: 305 in 6 "Rhythm" families (localized rhythms for specific areas are included in the WORLD 1 and WORLD 2 families)
  • Rhythm Composer: Internal Rhythm Composer, SMF-to-Rhythm Converter provided as PC application (Windows) on the bundled CD-ROM
  • One Touch memories: 4 programmable registrations per rhythm
  • Rhythm Makeup Tools: Instrument-oriented editing
Songs:
  • Real-time player: SMF (Format 0/1), KAR, mp3, WAV, mp3+CDG
  • Song chord extractor: Automatic chord detection for SMF files
  • SMF Makeup Tools: Instrument-oriented editing
Performance Memories:
  • Performance Lists:
    • Unlimited number (storage on USB memory)
    • Over 500 "Music Assistant" memories (internal memory)
    • 5 "Factory Song" memories (internal memory)
 Performance memories per List: Max. 999
 Search function: Quick location of SMF, audio and JPG files on the connected USB memory
Recording:
  • Media: USB Flash memory
  • Song Save Format - Audio files: WAV (44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear)
Video:
  • Lyrics:
    • SMF, mp3/WAV, mp3+CDG
  • Slide shows:
    • Picture folder linked to songs (recommended resolution: 512 x 384 or 1024 x 768 pixels)
Other:
  • Panel controls: Knobs: VOLUME, Rotary encoder: Data dial
  • Connectors:
    • PHONES jack x2: Stereo 1/4" phone type
    • AUDIO INPUT jack: Stereo miniature phone type
    • AUDIO OUTPUT jacks (L/Mono, R/Mono): 1/4" phone type
    • USB COMPUTER connector (Type B, reception and transmission of MIDI data)
    • USB MEMORY (Type A, data storage devices)
    • MIDI connectors (IN, OUT): Visual Control function
    • VIDEO OUTPUT jack: RCA-type (CVBS, PAL or NTSC selectable)
    • Foot pedal jack: HOLD, SWITCH/EXPRESSION (programmable)
  • Speakers: 10 cm x 2
  • Rated power output: 12 W x 2
  • Power supply: AC adaptor
  • Power consumption: 1100mA
  • Auto Off function: Off, 10 min, 30 min, 240 min
  • Accessories:
    • Owner's Manual
    • AC adaptor
    • Power cord (for connecting the AC adaptor)
    • Music rest
    • CD-ROM (Style Converter 4.0, USB driver)
Option (sold separately):
  • USB Flash Memory: M-UF series
  • Pedal Switch: DP series
  • Footswitch: BOSS FS-5U
  • Expression Pedal: EV series
Dimensions:
Size and Weight (Without music rest):
    • Width (W): 1,044 mm41-1/8 inches
    • Depth (D): 317 mm12-1/2 inches
    • Height (H): 129 mm5-1/8 inches
Size and Weight (Including music rest):
    • Width (W): 1044 mm41-1/8 inches
    • Depth (D): 317 mm12-1/2 inches
    • Height (H): 301 mm11-7/8 inches

Morison 20.01.2012 15:05

Kao sto se i iz specifikacija vidi, ovo ispada da je Bk5 nesto drugaciji od Bk7m posto nema prikljucak za FC7 pedalu, ima samo dva MFX za ritam sekciju (mada je i to sasvim dovoljno).
Sa druge strane ima style composer a Bk7m nema i OTS se daju srediti u Bk5 (mislim barem) dok za sada Bk7m to nema. Zato sam rekao da treba sacekati update za bk7m.
Vidim da Bk5 na broju ima vise boja i drum setova!
Takodje vidim lock za tempo, style, tone na vrlo pristupacnim mestima.
Dakle ne radi se o pukom prebacivanju Bk7m u sasiju sa klavijaturom.
Okacicu malo kasnije par demo-a ;)

zukae 20.01.2012 15:17

U odnosu na GW8 ima 4 OTS (programabilna), ima neograničeno performansi.
Hm ne mogu da vidim ni iz oficijelnih podataka, da li će se tonovi moći editovati.
Gledajući slike ne vidim sync stop, octave i transpose.

Morison 20.01.2012 15:43

Evo prvog demo-a:

http://soundcloud.com/deja-morison/roland-bk5

Sto se tice sync stop on se dobije dvoklikom na sync start.
Naravno, ima i transponse ("key" taster koji isto moze da se zakljuca) a pravljene boje se snimaju u performance listu...

zukae 20.01.2012 15:59

Fino bogami.

Boban010 20.01.2012 18:58

Koji je chip u njemu,sonic cell?
Pitam jer ova poslednja dva instrumentala zvuce kao da su sa EXR E2.
Isto ne vidim da ima opciju favorite tonova ili performansi...
Ako bude cena manja od 950E u sta sumnjam,mozda cu jedan od svojih GW8 zameniti za ovo sokocalo...:lol:
Isto bi voleo da znam da li je moguce fabricke ritmove zameniti drugim ritmovima?
P.S.Sta je sa user scalama?

zukae 20.01.2012 19:17

Eto ako se budu mogli na OTS pozivati editovani instrumenti (iz performansi), onda i nema neke potrebe za favoritima.
Na njemačkim stranicama, ta cijena 950 Eura je "Unverbindliche Preisempfehlung" hoće reći preporučena cijena (maksimalna), a kaže dalje citiram: " im Handel wird es dann wohl so um die 800 Euro kosten". Kao u radnjama će vjerovatno koštati 800 Eura, pa vidjet ćemo.

Boban010 20.01.2012 19:37

To je razumna cena,nije lose!
E sad,mozda sam pogresno razumeo ali cini mi se da sam u specifikacijama procitao da i BK5 kao i GW8 ima mogucnost za vise drum traka u ritmu...
U medjuvremenu evo jos jednog demoa,slusajuci ga rekao bi da to nije sonic cell.....




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Morison 20.01.2012 22:51

Boki mislim da moze vise drum traka kao sto i na Bk7m moze. Samo da sacekamo da vidimo kako je to podrzano u style composeru.
Sound engine najvise lici na E80 plus neke dodatne boje i drum setovi. Harmonike su vec za Bk7m doradjene a iste su na Bk5. Zvuce vrlo dobro!
Sto se tice favorite boja, ima cetiri OTS boja po ritmu.
Ritmova mozes da smestas koliko hoces na usb memoriji. Takodje i user programe (performance)...
Dodato:
User Manual za Bk5 ;)
http://www.roland.com/support/articl...-5&id=62265052

Boban010 21.01.2012 14:51

Prelistavajuci manual otkrio sam da se i kod njega scale tuning belezi u globalu a ne u performansi samim tim,iako je mozda previse rano za takav zakljucak-zbogom terce!


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